"Lord, that I may see"
The Catholic Church recognized its image in the
inspired books of the Bible.
That is how it determined the Canon of
Scripture. Fr. Ken Baker...
It never ceases to amaze me how a Church that
is so easily recognizable in a few simple Scripture verses,
or even denied by some.
1. Jesus Christ
is the TRUTH:
John 14:6, "I am the way, the TRUTH, and the life. No one comes
to the Father but through Me."
Whatever He said, therefore is the
"He who does not believe the Son, makes Him a liar." 1John
Read the many files I have posted on this website, under the
2. Jesus Christ
has all AUTHORITY:
Romans 13:1-2, "Let everyone be subject to the higher
authorities, for there exists no authority except from GOD, AND THOSE WHO EXIST
HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY GOD (6). Therefore, he who resists the AUTHORITY resists the ordinance
of GOD; and THEY THAT RESIST BRING ON THEMSELVES
Read the many files I have posted on this website under the
3. Jesus Christ
passed on the AUTHORITY to His
Apostles to act in His behalf:
Luke 10:16, "He who HEARS YOU, HEARS ME; AND
HE WHO REJECTS YOU, REJECTS ME; AND HE WHO REJECTS ME, REJECTS HIM WHO SENT
John 20:21, "...As the Father has sent Me, I ALSO SEND YOU." When He
had said this, he breathed upon them, and said to them, "RECEIVE THE HOLY
SPIRIT; WHOSE SINS YOU SHALL FORGIVE, THEY ARE FORGIVEN THEM; WHOSE SINS YOU
SHALL RETAIN, THEY ARE RETAINED."
4. Jesus Christ
founded His ONE Church:
Matt 16:18, "And I say to thee, thou art Peter, and
upon this rock I will build My Church."
He who is the TRUTH, Jesus Christ,
did not say Churches, did He?
5. In chapter 18
of Matthew, Jesus Christ made His Church the FINAL AUTHORITY:
18:15-18,"But if your brother sin against you, go and show him his fault between
you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have won your brother. But if he
does not listen to you, take with you one or two more so that on the word of two
or three witnesses every word may be confirmed. AND IF HE REFUSE TO HEAR THEM,
APPEAL TO THE CHURCH, BUT IF HE REFUSES TO HEAR EVEN THE CHURCH, LET HIM BE TO
YOU AS THE HEATHEN AND THE PUBLICAN."
He who is TRUTH, Jesus Christ, did not
say appeal to the Bible did He?
Eph 1:22, "And all things He made subject
under His feet, and Him he gave as Head over all the Church, which is indeed His
Body, the completion of Him who fills all with all."
The Church which Jesus
Christ founded does indeed have the FINAL AUTHORITY, since Jesus Himself is
the Head of His Body.
6. Now that the
Apostles have the AUTHORITY, to speak in the PERSON OF CHRIST
(2Cor 2:10), they exercise that AUTHORITY.
Now that Christ's Church has the
final AUTHORITY, who, or what becomes the Guardian of the
TRUTH? Is it the Bible?
1Tim 3:15, "...but in order that you may know, if I
am delayed, HOW TO CONDUCT YOURSELF IN THE HOUSE OF GOD, WHICH IS THE CHURCH OF
THE LIVING GOD, THE PILLAR AND FOUNDATION OF THE TRUTH."
It is not the Bible,
but the Church, which is the guardian of TRUTH. What is a foundation? It is the
base upon which the Church rests, the "Rock" upon which Jesus Christ built His
(1Cor 3:11, Eph 2:20) . What is a "pillar"? It is something which
holds something up, it "upholds" it. The Church which Jesus Christ founded now
has the final AUTHORITY (2) and the task of being the Guardian of the TRUTH (1), and of upholding
7. Knowing that
the Apostles will not live forever, Scripture made provision to replace them by
a system of Apostolic Succession. It is the person holding the office which
dies. The office in itself does not die but is then filled by another:
109:8, "...let another take his office."
Acts 1:20-26, "...And his ministry
let another take."....And they prayed and said, "You, Lord, who knows the hearts
of all, show which of these two you have chosen to take the place in this
ministry and Apostleship from which Judas fell away to go to his own place." And
they drew lots between them, and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered
with the eleven Apostles.
1Cor 3:10-11, "According to the Grace of GOD
which has been given to Me, as a wise builder, I laid the foundation, and
another builds thereon. But let everyone take care how he builds thereon. For
other foundation no one can lay, but that which has been laid, which is Jesus
20:28, "Take heed to yourselves and to the whole flock in which THE HOLY SPIRIT
HAS PLACED YOU AS BISHOPS, TO RULE THE CHURCH OF GOD, WHICH HE HAS PURCHASED
WITH HIS OWN BLOOD."
Acts 20:32, "And now I commend you to GOD and to the
Word of his Grace, WHO IS ABLE TO BUILD UP AND TO GIVE THE INHERITANCE
AMONG ALL THE SANCTIFIED."
This very same process has continued down
through the ages in an unbroken line to the present day. Every Pope is chosen by
lots, just as the Apostles did for Matthias in Acts 1:20-26.
line of Bishops and Popes can be traced all the way back to the Apostles.
you have all of this in your Church?
See "The Papacy is Scriptural", elsewhere on this website for much more.
also, "The Unbroken
Line", elsewhere on this website. It is a complete listing
of every Pope from St. Peter to our present one.
It is the Holy Spirit who guides and guards the Church which
Jesus Christ founded:
John 14:16-17, "And I will ask the Father and He will
give you another ADVOCATE TO DWELL WITH YOU FOREVER, THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH WHOM
THE WORLD CANNOT RECEIVE, BECAUSE IT NEITHER SEES HIM NOR KNOWS HIM. BUT YOU
SHALL KNOW HIM, BECAUSE HE WILL DWELL WITH YOU, AND BE IN YOU."
16:12-13, "Many things yet I have to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
BUT WHEN HE, THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, HAS COME HE WILL TEACH YOU ALL THE TRUTH. FOR
HE WILL NOT SPEAK ON HIS OWN AUTHORITY, BUT WHATEVER HE WILL HEAR HE WILL SPEAK,
AND THE THINGS THAT ARE TO COME HE WILL DECLARE TO YOU."
"Therefore, do not be afraid of them. FOR THERE IS NOTHING CONCEALED THAT WILL
NOT BE DISCLOSED, AND NOTHING HIDDEN THAT WILL NOT BE REVEALED."
last two verses clearly say that everything is NOT in the Bible, and that
understanding and discernment by the Church will increase over
The Church which Jesus Christ founded will be here from the
time He founded it until the end of time. In many verses it is the promise of
Dan 2:44, "But in the days of those kingdoms the GOD OF HEAVEN WILL SET UP A KINGDOM THAT SHALL NEVER BE
DESTROYED, AND HIS KINGDOM SHALL NOT BE DELIVERED UP
TO ANOTHER PEOPLE. AND IT SHALL BREAK IN PIECES, AND SHALL CONSUME ALL THESE
KINGDOMS, AND ITSELF SHALL
Matt 16:18, "And THE GATES OF
HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT."
Matt 28:20, "And behold, I AM WITH
YOU ALL DAYS, EVEN UNTO THE CONSUMMATION OF THE WORLD."
This verse means
every day in every century until the end of the world.
"...and HE WILL GIVE YOU ANOTHER ADVOCATE TO DWELL WITH YOU FOREVER."
believe that verse would mean unbroken continuity until the end of time.
Wouldn't you agree?
Eph 3:21, "TO HIM BE GLORY IN THE CHURCH AND IN
CHRIST JESUS DOWN THROUGH ALL THE AGES OF TIME WITHOUT END."
This verse said
"TO BE DEEP IN HISTORY IS TO CEASE TO BE
John Cardinal Newman, an Anglican convert to the Catholic Church, said that after he had done an
intense study of the Church Fathers.
Sadly, many Protestant ministers tell
their flocks not to read the Church Fathers*,
as they might be corrupted by doing so. This could not be further from the
truth. Everyone reads the history of their own country, or of the world, and of
the people in it. How then, can anyone be prevented from reading the history of
Christianity? By reading these historical writings for yourselves, you will gain
a better understanding of the truth, and knowledge of the truth will set you
free, John 8:32.
However, if you deny the truth, you will perish, 2Thess
*Rom 1:18, "For the
wrath of GOD is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and wickedness of
those men WHO IN WICKEDNESS HOLD BACK THE TRUTH OF GOD."
What did the
historians of Christianity, the early Church writers, and Church Fathers have to
Didache, 10:5 70 A.D.
"Remember, O LORD, YOUR
CHURCH. DELIVER IT FROM EVERY EVIL AND PERFECT IT IN YOUR LOVE. GATHER IT FROM
THE FOUR WINDS, SANCTIFIED FOR YOUR KINGDOM, WHICH YOU HAVE PREPARED FOR
The entire "Didache" is posted elsewhere
on this website for your reading pleasure.
St. Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch, (d-107?).
to the Smyrneans, 8, 106 A.D.
8. "You must all follow the lead of the bishop,
as Jesus Christ followed that of the Father; follow the presbytery as you would
the Apostles; reverence the deacons as you would God's commandment. Let no one
do anything touching the Church, apart from the bishop. Let that celebration of
the Eucharist be considered valid which is held under the bishop or anyone to
whom he has committed it. Where the bishop appears, there let the people be,
JUST AS WHERE JESUS CHRIST IS, THERE IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. It is not permitted without
authorization from the bishop either to baptize or to hold an agape; but
whatever he approves is also pleasing to God. Thus everything you do will be
proof against danger and valid."
This entire "Letter to the Smyrneans" can be
found elsewhere on this website.
St. Clement of Alexandria (150-211).
7:17:107:3, J435, 202 A.D.
"We say, therefore, that in substance, in concept,
in origin and in eminence, THE ANCIENT AND CATHOLIC CHURCH IS ALONE, GATHERING AS IT DOES
INTO THE UNITY OF THE ONE FAITH WHICH RESULTS FROM THE FAMILIAR COVENANTS, or
rather, from the one covenant in different times, by the will of the one GOD and
through the one Lord, those already chosen, those predestined by GOD who knew
before the foundation of the world that they would be
St. Athanasius (296-373), Bishop of Alexandria.
In his lifetime he earned the
title "Father of Orthodoxy".
Letter to Serapion of Thmuis 1:28, 359
"Let us note that the very tradition, teaching, and faith of
CHURCH from the beginning, which
the Lord gave,
was preached by the Apostles, and was preserved by the
On this was the Church founded; and if anyone departs from
he neither is nor any longer ought to be called a
St. Augustine of Hippo (354-430).
Against the Letter of Mani 5:6, J1580-1581,
"I should not believe the Gospel except as moved by
of the CATHOLIC
mentioned the Catholic Church, by name, over 300 times in his
St. Vincent of Lerins (d-450).
2:1-3, J2168, 434 A.D.
"I received almost always the same answer from all of
them, that if I or anyone else wanted to expose the frauds and escape the snares
of the heretics who rise up, and to remain intact and sound in a sound faith, it
would be necessary with the help of the Lord, to fortify that faith in a twofold
manner: first, of course, by the authority of divine law; AND THEN BY THE
TRADITION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH" ....."And thus, because of so many distortions of such
various errors, it is highly necessary that the line of prophetic and apostolic
interpretation be directed in accord with the norm of the ecclesiastical AND
CATHOLIC MEANING. IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HERSELF EVERY CARE MUST BE TAKEN THAT WE MAY HOLD FAST TO
THAT WHICH HAS BEEN BELIEVED EVERYWHERE, ALWAYS, AND BY ALL. FOR THIS IS, THEN,
TRULY AND PROPERLY CATHOLIC."
St. Fulgence, Bishop of Ruspe (467-527).
Forgiveness of Sins, 1:19:2, J2251a, 512 A.D.
"For he is saved by the
Sacrament of Baptism, whom the unity of love holds WITHIN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH up to his passing from this
Here are many more references of
the Catholic Church, written by the Church Fathers
and early Church writers. These writings are of the history of Christianity. The
Jxxx references are to a set of three excellent books, "The Faith of the Early
Fathers", by William A. Jurgens.
Apostolic Succession in the Catholic Church...
Clement, Letter to the Corinthians 42:1. J20
Against Heretics 32:1. *J296
Firmilian, Letter to Cyprian 75:16.
Poem against the Marcionites 3:276. J897
Epiphanius of Salamis,
Against All Heresies 27:6. J1092
Authority of the Catholic Church...
Ephesians 5:3. J38a,b,43,44,47,48,49,58a
*Ignatius, Letter to the Smyrneans
Tertullian, Against Marcion 4:5:1. J341
**Augustine, Against the
Letter of Mani 5:6. J1581
Augustine, Against Faustus 33:6+. J1607,
Church mentioned by
*Ignatius, Letter to the Smyrneans 8:1-2. J65 106AD
of St. Polycarp 16:2. J77,79,80a,81a, 155AD
*Clement of Alexandria,
Stromateis 7:17:107:3. J435 202AD
Cyprian, Unity of the
Catholic Church 4-6. J555-557 251AD
Letter to Florentius 66:69:8. J587 254AD
*Lactantius, Divine Institutions
4:30:1. *J637 304AD
Alexander of Alexandria, Letters 12. J680
Athanasius, Letter on Council
of Nicea 27. J757 350AD
*Athanasius, Letter to Serapion 1:28. J782
Athanasius, Letter to Council of Rimini 5. J785 361AD
Jerusalem, Catachetical Lectures 18:1. J836-*839
Damasus, Decree of Damasus
3. J910u 382AD
Serapion, The Sacramentary 13:1. J1239a 350AD
Barcelona, Letter to Sympronian 1:4 J1243 375AD
Augustine, Letter to Vincent
the Rogatist 93:7:23. J1422
Augustine, Letter to Vitalis 217:5:16. J1456
*Augustine, Psalms 88:2:14, 90:2:1. J1478-1479 418AD
Sermons 2, 267:4. *J1492, *J1523 430AD
*Augustine, Sermon to Catechumens on
the Creed 6:14. J1535
*Augustine, The True Religion 7:12+. *J1548, *J1562,
**Augustine, Against the Letter of Mani 4:5. *J1580-1581
Christian Instruction 2:8:12+. *J1584, J1617
Augustine, Baptism 4:21:28+.
J1629, J1714, J1860a, J1882
*Augustine, Against the Pelagians 2:3:5+. *J1892,
Innocent I, Letter to Probus 36. J2017
*Fulgence of Ruspe,
Forgiveness of Sins 1:19:2, J2251-2252
Hermas, The Shepherd Vis 2:4:1. J82
Anonymous 2nd Letter of
Clement to Corinthians 14:2. J105
Clement of Alexandria, Stromateis
Augustine, Letter to Deogratias 102:15. J1428
Psalms 90:2:1. J1479
Augustine, Predestination of Saints 9:18.
Gregory I, Letter to John 5:44:18. J2295 595AD
Church Will Last
Clement, Letter to Corinthians 42:1,64. J20,29a
*Anonymous, 2nd letter of Clement to Rome 14:2. J105
of the Catholic
Church 4. J555-556
Letter to the Lapsed 33:27:1. J571
*Hilary, The Trinity 7:4. J865 Augustine,
Psalms 90:2:1. J1479
*Augustine, Sermon to Catechumens 6:14.
Letter to Corinthians 42:1. J20
*Hermas, The Shepherd Vis 2:4:1-3:5:1. J82-84
Anonymous, Letter of Clement 14:2. J105
Irenaeus, Against Heresies
Tertullian, Demurrer Against Heretics 9:3. J289
Alexandria, Stromateis 7:17:107:3. J435 202AD
Cyprian, Unity of the
Catholic Church 4. J555-556
to the Lapsed 33:27:1. J571
*Hilary of Poitiers, The Trinity 7:4.
*Augustine, Homilies on John 9:10. J1814
Church In Rome
*Clement, Letter to the Corinthians, Address. J10a
Ignatius, Letter to the Romans, J52 107 AD
Heresies 3:3:3. J210-211
Cyprian, Letter to Cornelius 59:55:14.
*Council of Constantinople, Canon3. J910d
*Damasus, Decree of Damasus
*Optatus of Melvis, Schism of Donatists 2:2.
4:3. J1b 70 AD
Ignatius, Letter to the Philadelphians 3:2. J56 107
Tertullian, Demurrer Against Heretics 20:4. J292
*Cyprian, Unity of
the Catholic Church 4.
Didache, 9:1,10:1. J6,7 70 AD
Clement, Letter to
Corinthians 5:1. J11
Ignatius, Letter to the Ephesians 3:2. J38 107
Martyrdom of St. Polycarp, Address. J77,79,81a
Hermas, The Shepherd Par
Anonymous, Letter to Diogenetus 6:1. J97a
Aristides of Athens,
Apology 15. J112
Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho 110. J144
Against Heresies 1:10:1. J191,192,215,257
*The Muratorian Fragment.
*Tertullian, Against the Jews 7:4. J320a
Clement of Alexandria,
Exhortation Greeks 10:110:1. J405
*Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lectures
*Damasus, Decree of Damasus 3. J910u
This is only a small sampling of the
historical writings of Christianity. There are literally many thousands of them,
by scores or hundreds of authors, and spread over many centuries.
everyone to go and read for themselves, the wealth of Christian information
written by Christian historians, the Fathers of the Church, and Early Church
Writers. Go Here or Here
This literally is a goldmine of
Christian information, and it is all free.
A summary of what we have learned
It is the Catholic Church which was founded by Jesus Christ.
It is the Catholic Church which is protected, preserved,
and perpetuated by Jesus Christ.
It is the Catholic Church which has the AUTHORITY given to
her by Jesus Christ.
It is the Catholic Church which is the
PILLAR AND FOUNDATION OF TRUTH.
It is the Catholic Church which is mentioned many times in
the writings of the Christian historians.
Questions and objections, regarding
the Catholic Church, which are answered in this
A. The Catholic Church is not the Church which Jesus Christ founded. False! See Sections 1-6.
B. The Catholic Church was not founded until the fourth
century. False! See
C. The Catholic Church apostatized in the early centuries. False! See Sections 9-10. There is not one written word to
substantiate this false charge. No one who has made the charge has been able to
back up what they say with a single authentic document from the time it
supposedly happened. In fact, they cannot even provide a date in which it
"happened". Why would anyone deliberately teach against what Scripture says
about the durability and perpetuality of GOD's Church? Why would anyone want to
make such an unfounded charge as this in the first place? The Church Fathers
surely would have mentioned such a monumental event. Instead they wrote just the
opposite. They wrote of how the Catholic Church was increasing and prospering, and how it fought off
heretical attacks of all types, attacks which continue to this very day. Notice
that I marked the writings of the Fathers of the Church, which I have quoted,
with the Century Number in
which they were written. The writings span all the way from the First to the Sixth Centuries. There is not even a
hint of a "great apostasy" in these writings. You will find this to hold true
throughout all of their writings. So, what do the detractors have to say now in
Please read, "The Catholic Church in the New Testament", which is found elsewhere on this website. In it, you
will find the detailed plan of the only Church which Jesus Christ founded. There
is only one present day Church which fits this plan perfectly, as it has for
almost 2000 years. Compare your Church and see if it even comes close to fitting
the plan as presented by Holy Scripture.
Name another organization which
has existed for almost 2000 years, and has withstood the constant slings and
arrows of heretics in every Century, from the First until the Twenty First? Tell me how the Catholic Church has been able to endure this constant onslaught?
for the surprising (for some) answer.
"What then shall we say to these
things? If GOD is for us, who is against
"So now I say to you, keep away from these
men and let them alone.
For if this plan or work is of men, it will be
but if it is of GOD, you will not be able to overthrow
Else perhaps you may find yourselves fighting
even against GOD."
Written by Bob
Stanley, January 28, 2000
Updated August 3, 2004
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